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by besonik
Nether Matters - Chapter 2 HD Pack
Nether Matters - Page 25
Play around in your own time boys!

Chapter 2, which will be page 11 through to 28 published weekly.

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Other Comics

Size Matters 1 - https://inkbunny.net/submissionview.php?id=500925
Size Matters 2 - https://inkbunny.net/submissionview.php?id=960335
Extra Matters - https://inkbunny.net/submissionsviewall.php?mode=pool&a...

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male 1,123,242, male/male 115,996, feral 84,264, clean 10,248, father 7,286, jake 1,019, simon 984, sylvester 363, greeting 264, noodle dragon 233, viridi 174, monumendo 120, lecture 53
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Type: Picture/Pinup
Published: 5 years, 11 months ago
Rating: General

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VaxtinTheWolf
5 years, 11 months ago
Submissive whiskers are submissive.
besonik
5 years, 11 months ago
Indeed, the whiskers of two sorry Viridi
ruk
ruk
5 years, 11 months ago
I wonder what they are late for?
besonik
5 years, 11 months ago
You'll find out in chapter 3 :)
PrysmTKitsune
5 years, 11 months ago
i love how you've just accepted taging them as 'noodle dragons' dispite the fact you've given them more then enough history for them to be there own thing.

also i feel kinda bad for them in that last page, come on man ease up not all of us are made of marble like you.
Shryke
5 years, 11 months ago
So very noodley!

Also in the original first ever page, they were referred to as “feral fluffydragons”!
besonik
5 years, 11 months ago
Yeah it's become a force of habit, but I also still tag Venkats as 'Dragons'.

You'll find out a part of the reason why in the next page. Today is a very important day.
PrysmTKitsune
5 years, 11 months ago
also been meaning to ask, magic is a thing in this world right...is there nothing out there that could fix brown eyes horn and face? or does he just keep the scars as a personal reminder?
TastesLikeGreen
5 years, 11 months ago
He's also missing most of his tail, don't forget.
besonik
5 years, 11 months ago
Magic that could reconstruct the body like that would be considered taboo by Luma (the 'god' of Monumendo). A Story Never Told would have a bit of an explanation why, but essentially anything that could disrupt the flow of life and death is considered too dangerous.

The other reason is as you say, a personal reminder. Part of Badlands culture is to wear scars of battle with pride, and because Sylvester being half Badlands as well as Jake's guardian he has instilled this belief in him.
PrysmTKitsune
5 years, 11 months ago
ugh i hate trying to put opinions like this into words i've retyped this message seventeen times now *Grumbel*
on jake's survivors atitude, more power to him that which doesn't kill you makes you stronger right.

on the deities point of view...yeaaaah i tend to find it something irritating when a god dictates to mortals what they can and cannot do with there own flesh...stick to the realms of the soul where you belong mr or miss floaty spirit, mortal considerations are beyond your understanding or judgement.
but thats just a personal pet peeve *shrug*
DaftVenture
5 years, 11 months ago
I mean this in a completely civil way and as discussion, not a slur, but, don't you think its a bit hypocritical for a mortal to dictate what a god can and can not do, let alone what they may or may not understand? You are trying to say that a god has no right to tell you what to do because he can't understand you, but you don't understand them or their abilities at all, so how would you know whether or not they understand mortals?  I'd think if one of the two knows what the other is capable of, it's not the mortals. The concept of a god is that there is someone out there who is superior to us as mortals. You and I physically CAN'T claim that a deity doesn't understand, because its you and I who don't understand. No amount of perceived differences between us and the god changes that. We have a limited view of the picture, they do not.


On a different track, as far as the comic deity goes, they ARE staying in the realm of the spirit. In this world life is intrinsically spiritual, and 'they' view altering that life, changing its flow with magic, as necromancy or worse. You might ask what's the harm in repairing fluffdragon's tail, its not like he is growing tons of horns or a fire pouch, or some other means of grabbing power for himself, he's not being diabolical, its just to aid his ease of living. But this is fantasy-druidism we are talking about. To grant him his tail, or his horns, or fix his face, those things DO give him power he wasn't afforded by life, because loss is natural, and its something we have to overcome or succumb to on our own. Using magic to twist the flow of life so that that loss and trauma are meaningless is a pervertion of the soul and that soul's progress through life.  if you think of natural life as a river and using magic as a dam to block the flow of progress of one's life, you might even consider it a form of undeath. You've stopped living and are running backwards.
PrysmTKitsune
5 years, 11 months ago
never said i wasnt being hypocritical, its my opinion though and i stand by it gods should not interfere with the affairs of mortals it causes nothing but confusion and annoyance to both sides...

as to druidic practices honestly thats a big questionmark as there arn't any of them left to ask, we have some records and such and a few practioners that attempted to revive the religions in more recent times but the original celtic druids were slaughtered by early christans who had invaded there lands so...yeah...none left to ask.

also i would put forth that there is nothing 'natural' about jakes injuries, nothing in this or any other world is more unnatural then war and combat...sentient beings are not meant to do that sort of thing, it has oft been said that the art of combat is in truth the art of controled insanity, for no sane man could maim and slaughter his fellow man such...this is all the more true of jakes race who are stated as being as a general rule, peacefull and calm by nature
besonik
5 years, 11 months ago
The way I view deities, gods or just creatures within another plane of existence is they exist in a way we cannot properly comprehend. In order for us to get some understanding of their motives and actions we need to overlay our own understanding of the world, applying a human element to them which would distort what they really are.

I use the term god loosely, the best description of Lumortima is a tree with perception of the world around her (I also use 'her' loosely). While she does reside in the Otherworld, or spirit world, she has a physical presence in the mortal world through her main tree on an island unreachable to mortal creatures (this is the same place the Sand God resides) and her saplings that Druids plant. These trees are how Nether Dragons enter the mortal world, which will be part of Nether Matters.

The way Nether Dragons create their bodies could be perceived as the same kind of magic required to reconstruct part of one's body, but they can do that due to their connection to the Otherworld and the host's physical body. For a host to do it they would need to draw on energy from the Otherworld, which is knowledge long lost from a precursor race. This race messed with the fabric of existence within the mortal world, crossing over too much and eliminating the ability to grow old and die as well as create new life. This would have been within A Story Never Told.

Now, Luma grows from new life being created. She wants new souls to be brought into existence so more Nether Dragons can exist withing the mortal world and further expand her trees. The cycle of life and death is tied to her own growth, anything that has the possibility of perverting that (like what the precursor race did) is a threat.

That doesn't cover everything but I could just go on and on. :)

Regarding Jake's injuries, that is going into something I'd rather keep secret until it's revealed within the story (which if I do continue after Nether Matters is a huge part of the next comic, Crimson Matters). While the Viridi and Wilds are peaceful races, some others are not so war does exist within Monumendo.

I'm trying to avoid having characters just spew this information out as exposition, and I'm torn between properly replying to comments with all the information or just giving hints as it will come up later within the story. I think doing separate pieces similar to the one I did explaining Nether Dragons will flesh out the understanding of the lore of Monumendo.
DaftVenture
5 years, 11 months ago
Now this is interesting stuff! Don't nethers sort of cause reincarnation? Or is it just that when a person dies without a neyhwr drqgon, they reincarnate and have no memory of their past lives? I feel like I'm misremembering things

But what I mean is, if people are being reincarnated because of nethers, arnt they sort of preventing "new' life?
besonik
5 years, 11 months ago
I've left how new souls are created as vague, but I imagined they would be created within otherworld and bound to new life. They may or may not have had a physical life before, but would have no way of knowing this without a Nether Dragon to 'store' their memories.

The other part is Nether Dragons protect souls in Otherworld. There are things there that feed on souls, devouring them....

The binding is more about spreading Luma's influence through the Nether Dragon. The more souls bound, the more Nether Dragon's in the physical world, and the greater need by those without to be given them by the planting and spreading holy trees.

Because death had been perverted in the past by the precursor race there was no spreading of life. Things became stagnant. The first Nether Dragon was born when death was brought back to Monumendo.

I hope that series of paragraphs made sense. :)
Shryke
5 years, 11 months ago
“Yes father.... but damn, isn’t he sexy tho?”
besonik
5 years, 11 months ago
LOL, damn did that make me laugh :)
8manx2
5 years, 11 months ago
Where is that bow tie? And maybe a pipe
besonik
5 years, 11 months ago
#makeSylvesterDapperAgain

I need to draw this now, and add a monocle too
8manx2
5 years, 11 months ago
I mean why not? Clothes exist in this universe, and unless I'm mistaken he is half the dragon spices that wears them.
besonik
5 years, 11 months ago
Well Chani is very hot on the idea of getting Desmond in lingerie...
Wolfian18
5 years, 11 months ago
I'm guessing Jake needed that swim to get through the heat but Simon doesn't want to embarrass him by mentioning that to Sylvester.
besonik
5 years, 11 months ago
Yup thats right. I did toss up Sylvester mentioning he knew the walk would be a struggle for Jake, but he expected both of them to factor it in to their travel time so it's more implied.
Wolfian18
5 years, 11 months ago
Well the implication worked, I was able to figure it out by context, nicely done! It'll be most clear when people read through it in one sitting, but that's how it usually is.
besonik
5 years, 11 months ago
Yeah, I think a few things within the story will be more obvious being read in one sitting or even a second reading :)
Wolfian18
5 years, 11 months ago
Definitely! And then all the lovely art can be enjoyed again too!
Draycros
5 years, 11 months ago
I'm still trying to figure out when exactly this story is taking place and what the characters should know at this point. I'm pretty sure it's after Size Matters 2 because they talk about how Chani's tree has been planted, but I'm not sure how long after. I would think it can't be that long after though since Simon doesn't seem to know about the whole Chani being a full member of the family now, that or the prejudice is just that strong.
Draycros
5 years, 11 months ago
Then again I think when this story takes place may have already been mentioned and I just forgot or missed it
besonik
5 years, 11 months ago
Can understand it being missed, I had a sentence mentioning it being between Size Matters 1 and 2 in the covers description. I can understand the confusion too, a lot of the first 2 chapters is with Jake and Simon which doesn't help place the time as the others were around Chani and Desmond. This story was suppose to come out before Size Matters 2 as just a written piece but it morphed into it's own thing after being combined with A Story Never Told.

The tree that Chani has planted is her first one (she grew this one from seed), it's the tree in Size Matters 1. And yeah you are right about Simon's prejudice. He does end up liking Chani, which isn't really a spoiler as it's illustrated at the end of Size Matters 2.
Slygrace
5 years, 11 months ago
I take it Sylvester will whip the whippersnappers with his whiskers once the event is over?
besonik
5 years, 11 months ago
They know what they've done now, but the threat is always there in Simon's mind =P
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