ya =U the more depth the characters have, the more people will believe even reactions they think are strange at first. otherwise, you're forced to keep your characters stereotypes and give them just stereotypical reactions.
ya =U the more depth the characters have, the more people will believe even reactions they think are
So it's back to the library to make up with Twilight and apologize to Fluttershy. And I'm glad you pointed out how AJ and BM overreacted to what the CMC did in Ponyville Confidential. It really irked me to see them act that way towards the CMC and not listen to what they needed to say.
So it's back to the library to make up with Twilight and apologize to Fluttershy. And I'm glad you p
yeah. watching that episode again, even though it wasn't explicitly explained, i got the impression that everyone was in cahoots against the cmc, acting needlessly harsh and ostracizing them in order to teach them a lesson--just like everyone did to RD in The Mysterious Mare Do Well and to Sweetie Belle in Sisterhooves Social. that's apparently the way you teach children morals according to mlpfim, by showing them that the world ends every time they do something vaguely silly. either that or all their characters are super volatile in canon and the reason people think characters in this comic are ooc is because i don't portray them as extreme enough! :P needs more troll morals, i guess.
yeah. watching that episode again, even though it wasn't explicitly explained, i got the impression
No! See that's exactly why I don't watch the show hardly ever, yet I love this comic. Because of how you DO, do that. Idk. The way the characters react in the show is too different for me, yet I like the show, because of the characters in general. The characters are good. But they're being forced to react the way they are. I like the way you do it, better than the show.
No! See that's exactly why I don't watch the show hardly ever, yet I love this comic. Because of how
Sisterhooves Social? I personally saw nothing wrong with that episode and Sweetie had every right to hate Rarity because of how she acted, even when she apologized. It wasn't cruel planning or anything, it was Rarity's way of saying how sorry she was by going through the competition.
Sisterhooves Social? I personally saw nothing wrong with that episode and Sweetie had every right to
i guess that's true. and i don't deny it was sweet of rarity to do. i think my observation about the tendency to rely solely on group dynamics among stereotypes remains valid, though. it may not be a "bad" thing since it's a children's show, but i do think they mess it up sometimes, some times more than others.
i guess that's true. and i don't deny it was sweet of rarity to do. i think my observation about the
Big Mac has the proper reaction for these last two pages. he's the elder of two sisters after all. that and you can't blame him for being protective...
Big Mac has the proper reaction for these last two pages. he's the elder of two sisters after all.
the main thing is that you actually did your homework on the discussion. I've noted this in stream that Big Mac is my fave pony, so seeing him act like a normal older brother towards sisters and their plights is a nice character setup for him.
the main thing is that you actually did your homework on the discussion. I've noted this in stream
ok, no matter how i write the drawl--even if i don't write it at all--someone is going to be upset. the "Aye" is advice from a Texas native, so i'm going to keep using it. i'm sorry.
ok, no matter how i write the drawl--even if i don't write it at all--someone is going to be upset.
I'm just saying an observation, not trying to take a personal jab at you. I just wanted to point it out if you didn't know that "aye" is pronounced the same as "I" and used in affirmation, aka "yes".
If you didn't know, this would be a different story, but I understand where you're coming from. Just thought I'd point it out in case.
I'm just saying an observation, not trying to take a personal jab at you. I just wanted to point it
Well, that was close. Also, kudos to you for referencing other episodes. :D I am a bit curious, do I sense a bit of the whole "AJ and Big Mac are AB's parents " idea going on, or am I reading too deep into this?
Well, that was close. Also, kudos to you for referencing other episodes. :D I am a bit curious, do I
But wait... When the comic and the alternate endings are over... ;_; That's when. There's a the banjo and kazooie comic might start...;_; but... I loved this comic soo much... Well I hope it returns after the next comic or even sooner. ;_;
But wait... When the comic and the alternate endings are over... ;_; That's when. There's a the banj
I was disappointed no one drew him as one for St. Patrick's day, that I could find. Other fun thought, a one page comic with Rarity flipping out at a sea of ponies wearing green. Although, a lady does not, flip out ;)
I was disappointed no one drew him as one for St. Patrick's day, that I could find. Other fun though
I saw the live stream for the first time and it was awesome. Well till i had to leave of course. In this comic BigMac acts like more of a father than a brother.
I saw the live stream for the first time and it was awesome. Well till i had to leave of course. In
yeah, he really has to take that role on. i was trying to hint at that with his line about their parents being dead. seeing people's reactions, i think i did an alright job :3
yeah, he really has to take that role on. i was trying to hint at that with his line about their par
Next page 25.03.2013. Hmm... Its good that comics come out every 5 days (when donated) but i really want to see more xxx actions (yea... I'm just like that. Liking x stuff).
Next page 25.03.2013. Hmm... Its good that comics come out every 5 days (when donated) but i really
the way things are going, looks like the final sex scene will begin on page 58 or 59 ^^ ....aaaaaaand there will be plenty of sex in the alternate endings (like 6/7 pages for each will be sex), assuming we meet our donation goal and actually get to do them. =P
the way things are going, looks like the final sex scene will begin on page 58 or 59 ^^ ....aaaaaaan
There will be SpikexTwilight and some actions with Zecora...I presume. With Zecora it will be something to prevent these event from happen (potions?) or castration.
There will be SpikexTwilight and some actions with Zecora...I presume. With Zecora it will be someth
Hey, Pinkie, looks like Applebloom had a more mature and responsible attitude than you fucking did.
Hey, Rainbow, looks like Applebloom acknowledged Spike's issues with control more than you did.
Hey, Spike, it looks like... I don't have a problem with you, you're being very good about all this now that you're back in control, just as I knew you would be.
I'm glad Applebloom was just more shocked than genuinely hurt. That was nice, believable and just...
Nice.
Hey, Pinkie, looks like Applebloom had a more mature and responsible attitude than you fucking did.
Perfectly put for all the character roles so far. I knew Big Mac would do something rash, but AJ knew better. Now if only Fluttershy and Twilight can figure that out. Hopefully The Apples can talk some sense into them.
Perfectly put for all the character roles so far. I knew Big Mac would do something rash, but AJ kn
Well Spike your one lucky Dragon... Tooo lucky if you ask me.... I wonder how long it would be before Big Mac respects the little guy again... In a way he kinda forgave him but I have my doubts he'll ever look at the dragon the same way again after this. I would image if someone did my little sister who wasn't even of age to understand her feelings I'd probably not give the guy the time of day much less beat the crap out of them...
Well Spike your one lucky Dragon... Tooo lucky if you ask me.... I wonder how long it would be befor
"Overreacted"? Sorry, but was what happened in-universe different from what we saw on the page? I said I had issues with non-consensual stuff, and I meant it, but this is having your cake and eating it too at the very worst. "Easily Forgiven" doesn't begin to describe what happened here, and actually shaming Mac for a perfectly natural reaction is that little step too far in shattering suspension of disbelief (he would have overstepped the line if he'd actually physically hurt Spike, but that didn't happen).
No. By his reaction, he did NOT deserve to be put down like this. Apple Bloom has been established as having a crush on Spike; why would Applejack do this 180 based solely on her sister's assertions, considering AB might very well be trying to make excuses for Spike? This is letting Spike off the hook way too easily. Heat of the moment or not, indecisive partner or not, what Spike did to AB was still a form of sexual assault, and this went too far too fast. One more page might have made all the difference here.
This comic managed to dodge the full-blown rape bullet, but the hopes I had for the resolution are being stripped away one by one. Here's hoping against hope that Twilight and Fluttershy will set him straight, at least, because by the reactions so far, he might very well conclude that it basically wasn't his fault.
Also, I can't believe you're making me agree with the idiot commenters over on Derpibooru where this comic is concerned. So far, I read the comments and thought "why are you reading this far into this comic if you hate it so much"? Now, though, I have to admit they might have a point, and I don't want to be on the same side as these dweebs.
"Overreacted"? Sorry, but was what happened in-universe different from what we saw on the page? I sa
Are you like reading a different comic then I am? Because you seem to have missed tons of key moments in this one... Where did you see a full blown rape... ? AB consented to it , she just got scared around the end. I don't think any law calls a rape, getting scared in the middle because the other part had too big of a tool and knot. He did not "assult" anything... Don't get me wrong, I am not a big fan of doing something to the partner that they don"t like during sex, but laws don't cover how exactly you have sex. They only cover if they agreed to it at the start.. As long as you don't physically harm the other partner, which spike obviously didn't. And if you call some physical pain down there during sex the first time, "and assult", then anybody that takes the virginity of a young partner, could and would be sued.. He did not hit her or anything like that. Let's not get that extreme in calling everything little dissagreement and/or discomfort during sex a freakin "full blown rape". They are young and unexperienced (also one is in heat and the other consumed by sex greed, which if you think about it ... is another way of describing being in heat, why can't males be in heat as well .. not just the usual male being horny, I call discrimination!!!). If they had gotten together they would have worked out how, to avoid hurting each other while having sex.
Are you like reading a different comic then I am? Because you seem to have missed tons of key moment
She explicitly stated she wanted him to stop. In that case, you do that, period, no matter whether "she actually wants you to continue" (which is a classic, and rightfully discredited, defense used by rapists, the old "she was asking for it" chestnut). No means no and yes means yes, and a "yes" can turn into a "no" at any time.
It might not be legally rape (and I never said it was; nothing that happened in this comic qualifies as such, and I can't for the life of me tell where you think I said so, because I never did), but it does qualify as sexual assault; you're doing something the other partner doesn't want you to do. My complaint is less what AB is doing, because that might be explained away by her feelings, but that AJ does an immediate 180 upon hearing it, and that Mac is being put in the wrong here when he clearly isn't.
She explicitly stated she wanted him to stop. In that case, you do that, period, no matter whether "
who cares if you call it rape? she forgave him and didn't press charges. she also convinced her family it wasn't rape. she's also not psychologically or physically damaged. if the act had none of the negative consequences of rape, there's no point in guarding against it by stuffing it under the same umbrella. given how most people and the law (at least in most US states) disagree with you, i'd say you're overreacting just like Big Mac and Applejack did at first. you would have let Spike get kicked in the face and suffer major head trauma, which is a response way out of proportion to the crime and the victim's reaction, a response that would have done way more harm than the crime caused.
i get that your point is that the characters' reactions aren't realistic, but i disagree. i'm sorry. i think you're proselytizing, and i think you're someone who could benefit from the points this comic is trying to make.
who cares if you call it rape? she forgave him and didn't press charges. she also convinced her fami
I'm real sorry to butt in, but I think you might be getting a bit over-defensive with the commenter here. They in no point said Spike deserved to get kicked in the face: they even mentioned that physical violence WOULD have been an overreaction.
I'd agree with Ospero that the character reactions aren't realistic, but we could blame that on the comic's quick pace in the last few pages (understandable, given the struggles between page prices and trying to tell a story without any detours). Telling Ospero that they're someone who could "benefit from the points this comic is trying to make" (even though I'm not very sure which those are at the moment) seems awfully close to attacking them personally.
I've read a few of these pages I've seen on IB's front page, and read through many comments, and I'd never seen you reply in this fashion to a commenter, even if they were disagreeing with the very subjective matter you're touching in this comic. It was a bit surprising, actually. )=
I'm real sorry to butt in, but I think you might be getting a bit over-defensive with the commenter
i'm sorry, but i've had so many people basically tell me that i'm an awful writer because rape is bad with all the facileness that implies that i was just done. in the interest of not starting a shitstorm, i'd ask that no one reply to this comment. i've made my opinion known and have heard the other side. i consider the argument over.
i'm sorry, but i've had so many people basically tell me that i'm an awful writer because rape is ba
I admit it gets much more interesting now. I see Big Mac & AJ has a very sad past they just don't want to remember. Let's see how events turn now, and hope for the best. Also, I don't think Twilight is going to forgive something like Spike did to her. And for the record, I smell a princess hoof involved in the matter. :P
I admit it gets much more interesting now. I see Big Mac & AJ has a very sad past they just don't wa
That's some fantastic plot ideas, i see here~! *w* I haven't seen the MLP and not going to even have a tiny look, but i can see the effort, that have been put in this. Good work! And thanks to Kitsu for the great art! ^w^
That's some fantastic plot ideas, i see here~! *w* I haven't seen the MLP and not going to even have
One word. Love it~! Wait, that's two words.... Er, now it's eight all together. Oh no, I just keep adding more! ;w; Well, you get my point though, realy realy nice~!
One word. Love it~! Wait, that's two words.... Er, now it's eight all together. Oh no, I just keep a
the experiment of this comic is to see how magical friendship mares react when put into a situation that real-life human girls would have trouble dealing with. it's supposed to represent the ideal outcome of the situation just like fim the show represents every episode with morals. the moral here is the virtues of forgiveness and how punishing mistakes does further harm instead of any good. if you took out the sex and cheating parts and threw that moral into an episode of the show with an appropriate plot, everyone would agree immediately! i personally don't see how it's any different with adult subject matter.
if someone does real harm like murdering or actually raping or stealing, then that's cause for punishment. but spike did no more than temporary emotional damage, and he's already repenting, so what would be the point of punishment? this comic stresses how having a knee-jerk reaction to the mention of the word "rape" and having that reaction before knowing all the facts, especially the feelings of the victim, is harmful.
we tend to think that, as adults, everything we have emotional troubles with automatically justifies us getting angry over it. but we feel just as angry when someone takes our toy in preschool, solves a math problem before us in grade school, makes fun of us in front of our friends in middle school, gets to our crush before us in high school, etc. and those things are, obviously, not worth getting that upset over. the same virtues we could accept as children still apply now that we're adults; it's only the situations which are more complicated, making it harder to apply those virtues.
if you want to go ostracize and/or beat your boy/girlfriend for sleeping around and arguably taking advantage of someone irl, be my guest. that's your business. you're the only one that knows whether punishment is worth it or not. in the meantime, punishment would only lead to a bad end in this comic, so please just enjoy what's happening. it's going to become fappable again soon.
a note to everyone due to drama: the experiment of this comic is to see how magical friendship mare
I love it. It has a mixture of everything. This time, the page had a sad and forgiving touch. Something I haven't seen much. Keep the good work. You both are going to be an epic legend. \(^0^)/ ♥♥♥♥♥
I love it. It has a mixture of everything. This time, the page had a sad and forgiving touch. Someth
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