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Changes to the Sales system

Inkbunny will move to a “Sales Management” system, allowing you to take orders and manage sales on Inkbunny, but with the payments being processed by you privately.

When the new system is completed, we will not take payments for you directly, but you still advertise your items for Sale via Inkbunny and it will look much the same as it does now.

The “Buy this now” thumbnails and links will appear as they do now, but will provide options for users to go to external sites where they can buy/pay for the item, an option to contact you directly for payment details, or the ability for users to place orders that you can then process and manage via Inkbunny.

Under the new system, Print orders will need to be fulfilled and shipped by you, or your customers can be sent to external Print Sales sites. Once we finish integrating a new system with our current Print Provider, the option for instant print sales will return as long as you have an account with them.

For now, the purchasing system is disabled and customers cannot check-out their orders. We will add a more detailed explanation to the checkout screen soon.

In the meantime you can keep uploading Sales versions to Inkbunny, mark them for sale and set prices. When the new system is complete, your current sales items and prices will be converted into the new sales system with preset defaults and you will then be able to configure the new options.

More details about all this will be coming soon!

Why is all this happening?

Several days ago we received a message from our current Payment Gateway Provider to say that they have decided to discontinue providing us the service, despite the fact they already approved our site and business model.

This is unfortunate considering the negotiation and assurances we had from them back when we first chose them as a provider.

As there is no suitable online payment alternative that accepts businesses that sell adult material, our only other option is to get our own credit card processing via a Merchant Account.

This is an expensive thing to do, and requires a lot of negotiating with banks to get a good deal when you run a site that handles Adult material and acts as a “Payment Processor” to artists, like we do.

But it does have a lot of advantages. We'll have much lower per-transaction fees to pay. Unfortunately direct credit card processing will only be viable once we have a lot more active members on the site and can expect a significantly higher sales volume than we have previously had. We'll keep everyone posted about this over the next few months.

Payouts to artists

Payments we owe to artists for past sales will continue being paid as per normal.

A call for Donors

Due to the changes in our Sales system, we will again be relying on donations to fund the site hosting costs.

Thank you very much everyone for the numerous offers of financial support we have received. We will be starting a new donations system in the next few days and we will announce how you can contribute then!

Updates to the Site

We are now running Version Beta 35.

* Added: There is now a “Photography” upload type. Just a reminder – Photography must be of things you created or own such as fursuits, sculptures, toys, etc. General photography is not allowed at this time.

* Change: Clicking submissions now loads the “Maximum Preview Size” version in a new tab. To change between Small and Large preview versions you now need to use the links below the submission image.

* Change: Users banned from your account can no longer reply to your comments anywhere in the system, even if they are on other users' submissions and journals.

* Fixed: Sometimes text files would be detected as “text/c++” or other odd types, and the system would refuse to let you upload them. Now all valid “text” types are accepted.

* Fixed: Large Thumbnails in Chrome would often display oddly, only having one thumbnail per row on some pages. This problem is now fixed but thumbnail display and spacing is still a bit odd in some places, but this is being fixed in the next version.

* Fixed: Artist names would sometimes be cut off under thumbnails, making it look like the names weren't displayed at all.

* Fixed: It was not possible to set Character sheets “public” if they were left as Private during the upload process.

* Fixed: The Pools Assign page would take you to a broken link if you clicked the Done button.

* Fixed: If you chose the Character Sheet type when uploading, the Pools Assign page would show in the Upload Wizard, even if you unchecked the box for it.

* Added: A message saying that a valid email is required to sign up has been added to the Signup page. You'd be amazed how many times a day people try to sign up with fake emails. I guess it's a useful basic intelligence test.

* Changed: All new accounts now have Large thumbnail display size chose by default.

* Fixed: Some checkboxes would disappear in the Admin section of Account Settings because Adblocker thought they were ads. The element ids were “ad1” and “ad2”, which Adblocker decided must mean they are ads.. of course.. >.< (But it was “ad” for “admin”).

* Added: Admins now have a quick list of latest journals site-wide. This is a feature we may extend to regular users too. We will also add Journal Searching if we do that.

Thanks for your support, everyone!

Starling
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Alfador
Alfador
13 years, 5 months ago
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Sweet!
cursedscythe
cursedscythe
13 years, 5 months ago
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Wonderful work out there again. I will try to spread the word about Inkbunny, getting some more nice people - this place totally deserves it <3
AMWULF
AMWULF
13 years, 5 months ago
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im so glad this site has admins that can manage everything professionally and intelligently ^_____^
bencoon
bencoon
13 years, 5 months ago
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We just fake it really well. :3
BarkWoof
BarkWoof
13 years, 5 months ago
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YES! This site is AWESOME! x3
Rhumba
Rhumba
13 years, 5 months ago
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Edited 13 years, 5 months ago by Owner
Hopefully the lack of that third party in the mix will mean another expansion of allowed content.
SpearWolf
SpearWolf
13 years, 5 months ago
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At least you aren't banning crap to appease to your payment service.
Kargrash
Kargrash
13 years, 5 months ago
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yet
Lando
Lando
13 years, 5 months ago
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or ever
Kargrash
Kargrash
13 years, 5 months ago
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Sorry, I'm not so positive.
Lando
Lando
13 years, 5 months ago
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no
Kargrash
Kargrash
13 years, 5 months ago
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No to what? I'm sorry I just don't think of Inkbunny as the holy grail of furry gallery sites. I prefer and stick by Fur Affinity.
Lando
Lando
13 years, 5 months ago
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yes
Kargrash
Kargrash
13 years, 5 months ago
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Thank you for agreeing with me.
Shadowfire
Shadowfire
13 years, 5 months ago
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Yeah FA just sets the bar so high for good decisions made by admins doesn't it.
Kargrash
Kargrash
13 years, 5 months ago
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Listen I gave up arguing anymore I like FA plan and simple. If your all for IB great and welcome. I don't think we see eye to eye but I'm glad our opinions differ. If we all thought the same way the world would be a boring place.
johnnyblanco
johnnyblanco
13 years, 5 months ago
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Edited 13 years, 5 months ago by Moderator
They didn't ban it because they felt like or to appease anything. No alertpay = no ad revenue which is what keeps the site running. It also means no way to accept donations. Thereby it means NO FA. If you don't like that fact.. that's fine but don't even think about passing judgment because you support "cub art".
SpearWolf
SpearWolf
13 years, 5 months ago
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Edited 13 years, 5 months ago by Owner
It is appeasement, since it's done out of the hope that Alertpay reconsiders dropping them. Alertpay doesn't have to reconsider even if they do it. They may not have a choice in the matter if they want to have a site, but that doesn't negate appeasement.
Kargrash
Kargrash
13 years, 5 months ago
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Just because IB may not have that type of problem yet doesn't mean that they won't eventually no site is perfect. Regardless of what people think about IB.
SpearWolf
SpearWolf
13 years, 5 months ago
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I agree. IB is a lot smaller, so it doesn't need to rely on sales as much to support hosting. FA is so enormous that it can't take not being able to accept donations and such for just about any period of time. IB's greatest advantage is that it's not as big. Still, I'll remain here until such a problem arises.
Kargrash
Kargrash
13 years, 5 months ago
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I understand you completely and wish people would lay off FA.
Kargrash
Kargrash
13 years, 5 months ago
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Oh you forgot one Fur Affinity is a wonderful site as well. https://www.furaffinity.net/
dahan
dahan
13 years, 5 months ago
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Since the new users are coming from FA, I think it's pretty obvious that they already know about it and don't need to be told to go check it out.
Kargrash
Kargrash
13 years, 5 months ago
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I was just politely stating it is there because it wasn't stated above in the introduction for anyone who hasn't heard about it.
Shokuji
Shokuji
13 years, 5 months ago
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But who hasn't heard of FA? ^_^;
Kargrash
Kargrash
13 years, 5 months ago
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I don't know I just happen to know there are a few IB only artists that may have not heard of FA so just in case why not promote. ^_^
dmfalk
dmfalk
13 years, 5 months ago
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Some really good changes, Starling! I should add that one of my most recent journals on FA (as I transition here) makes the suggestion that someone should make their own furry version of PayPal/AlertPay, which would solve alot of these headaches for all concerned. Looks like you were thinking along similar lines, so I wish you good luck!

d.m.f.
budgiebin
budgiebin
13 years, 5 months ago
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Edited 13 years, 5 months ago by Owner
Trusting anyone to handle large amounts of cash from many people is a very sticky business situation.  And I'm not even getting into taxes and laws here.
xpanther
xpanther
13 years, 5 months ago
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oh... only if i had that kinda funding to build a holding company x.x; XD
Kamicheetah
Kamicheetah
13 years, 5 months ago
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I don't think putting a fandom centric spin on a service would make it able to ignore or change rules and regulations it would have to follow to be a legal business. That's just my opinion though. /:T
DaddyDuckyBE
DaddyDuckyBE
13 years, 5 months ago
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" Kamicheetah wrote:
I don't think putting a fandom centric spin on a service would make it able to ignore or change rules and regulations it would have to follow to be a legal business. That's just my opinion though. /:T


Don't confuse Canadian and US laws.
Kamicheetah
Kamicheetah
13 years, 5 months ago
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I never said -where- laws were sanctioned just that I don't think making a Furry version is going to suddenly make it different from a normal business.
ManuelHogflogger
ManuelHogflogger
13 years, 5 months ago
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I agree that proper rating and key-wording is necessary for our submissions.  But do we still need to use cautionary thumbnails for our more extreme works like we did at FA or is the tag filtering system sufficient?
Zeikcied
Zeikcied
13 years, 5 months ago
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As long as it's properly tagged, then you should be fine.  If someone doesn't want to see that content, they can block the keyword.
Kamicheetah
Kamicheetah
13 years, 5 months ago
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I wouldn't bother with thumbnails since the keyword blocking system seems to work just fine. I'd just go with properly key wording images.
Kamicheetah
Kamicheetah
13 years, 5 months ago
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added note: Cause if someone still manages to see an image full of keywords they blocked when even one will do to block to submission, they are looking for trouble. XD;
Immelmann
Immelmann
13 years, 5 months ago
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I am actually MORE inclined to use the sales system, now that I know I can do everything myself.
ragarth
ragarth
13 years, 5 months ago
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Due to a foul roomie and a stolen paypal account, I can't use paypal to purchase art. Before this alertpay BS exploded I was looking into inkbunny as a payment alternative, but now that that's not an option, will there be reliable ways for me to purchase art that isn't alertpay or paypal?
Crassus
Crassus
13 years, 5 months ago
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From what I'm understanding above is that the artist will be responsible for handling transactions, so that would be a question better suited for whomever you're buying art from.
AuraDeva
AuraDeva
13 years, 5 months ago
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Western Union or money orders would be the next most secure and private method.
ragarth
ragarth
13 years, 5 months ago
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Righto, I'll keep that in mind next time.
Sefeiren
Sefeiren
13 years, 5 months ago
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You guys are keeping busy! Thanks for all the hard work and keeping us up to date~!
Zoichi
Zoichi
13 years, 5 months ago
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Ah, too bad about the payment thing x.x But I'm glad to hear you're looking to sort it out later. I hope everything goes well with the Merchant account idea, when you decide to implement it n.n
otterface
otterface
13 years, 5 months ago
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Glad to see you guys working this Alertpay thing out and finding reliable alternatives. I really hope enough people make the switch to Inkbunny to keep the ball rolling. You've got my thanks for all the hard work you guys have been doing!
Kargrash
Kargrash
13 years, 5 months ago
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Edited 13 years, 5 months ago by Owner
I kind of hope people stay on FA and not switch over. Not that this isn't a good site its just I'd rather be able to keep up with all the artists on one site and since a lot of people will not switch over because they are a fan of FA means the ones that do swap I'd have to try and keep up with on two sites I'd rather just have one site to look over.
otterface
otterface
13 years, 5 months ago
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Honestly, guy... I've read your other replies and your angry journal, and I realize that you're afraid of change. That's fine. People don't like change. I get it. Inkbunny is threatening to you because it has the potential to upset the little safe haven you've dug out for yourself on FA. There's nothing wrong with feeling that way. It's a little silly, but people can do crazy things when they feel like they've been backed into a corner. I understand.

What I don't understand is why you feel the need to come here and swing your hate-boner for Inkbunny around in a thread, directed at Inkbunny users that actually want to be here, describing how the Inkbunny staff are working their tails off to make this place the best home that it can be for us. We like Inkbunny here, and the simple truth is that this site is superior in quality and service to FA and it only gets better every day.

Please, take your hasty, paranoid hate comments back to FA where they belong because we aren't buying it and you're becoming just a little bit irritating. Plus, how many people are actually leaving FA to come here? There aren't a huge number of people that have completely abandoned ship. Hell, even some cub artists still intend to maintain galleries there sans objectionable material. Relax. You're safe.
Kargrash
Kargrash
13 years, 5 months ago
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I am sorry to have hit a nerve I honestly didn't look to cause trouble I know they work hard here for their site all I gave was a reply stating I would like them to stay on FA this in no way was bashing Inkbunny I hope people adopt both sites what I don't want is them completely jumping ship on FA to come here. I am not trying to be hateful. unfortunately you'll probably never believe me. As for a hate journal all I stated was that I preferred FA is that so wrong.
otterface
otterface
13 years, 5 months ago
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It is not at all wrong to state that you prefer FA. I don't think that requires incendiary language, though. I'm sure you have nothing to worry about. Plenty of artists have accounts at multiple furry art websites. The only ones you have to worry about are the cub artists who may have no choice in the matter. If you say you're not out to be hateful, then I believe you. I'm not the type to hold grudges.
Kargrash
Kargrash
13 years, 5 months ago
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I have deleted said hateful journal and added an apology I hope those of you who have seen said journal would hear me out to say I'm sorry.
otterface
otterface
13 years, 5 months ago
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No problem, guy. We can all be friends here. :3
MythrilWolf
MythrilWolf
13 years, 5 months ago
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Im sorry to hear that Ink Bunny has also been dropped by the finance service provider.
Thankyou for taking the time and effort to figure out a way to support the community and keep its integrity in tact. Im sure the site will pull through this, we just have to keep fighting. :3
Aurali
Aurali
13 years, 5 months ago
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I got money to spare, how would you like it donated?
Shokuji
Shokuji
13 years, 5 months ago
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Me too, I'd like to donate. =3
DaddyDuckyBE
DaddyDuckyBE
13 years, 5 months ago
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Edited 13 years, 5 months ago by Owner
Okay, so here I am migrating from FA due to the recent troubles there, following my favorite artists. It's so great that you guys here at InkBunny care so much that you look for real alternatives to mere content banning.

I think the only thing this place misses would be something like a proper forum for enhanced socializing where we could talk about this site's art in general, something like what I saw over at JAB.

EDIT: And it's so cool that you can even edit your comments over here, one of the things you could never do on FA.
Kargrash
Kargrash
13 years, 5 months ago
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Yeah I also hope for a forum so that there is more chance for socializing which is some thing FA does have. So I hope this site gets one soon.
Clunkymunk
Clunkymunk
13 years, 5 months ago
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you should suggest it via support ticket :3 you seem to have some time on your paws to type up a good message about it's usefulness, and I'm sure others would back your suggestion :3
Kargrash
Kargrash
13 years, 5 months ago
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Thank you for the idea I did send in a ticket about a forum. I hope that when things get settled down around here they get the time to look into making one.
Clunkymunk
Clunkymunk
13 years, 5 months ago
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I gather they're really busy right now, but they'll probably reply and let you know what they think when they get the chance to.
GreenReaper
GreenReaper
13 years, 5 months ago
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We have a lot on our plate to implement, and I think some of those are going to be scheduled ahead of general forums, but we do get a lot done.
Clunkymunk
Clunkymunk
13 years, 5 months ago
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oh, yes, i know. that's just one of many things i love about this site :3
Kiffin
Kiffin
13 years, 5 months ago
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I was under the impression that Forums provided more problems then solutions in the first place mew =p
GreenReaper
GreenReaper
13 years, 5 months ago
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All new features will be carefully considered. If Starling felt they were crucial, I imagine they'd be here already.
DaddyDuckyBE
DaddyDuckyBE
13 years, 5 months ago
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Oh, and is there something like the User Control Panel on FA where I can see all the latest submissions, journals, and comments by my watched artists sorted by date?
GreenReaper
GreenReaper
13 years, 5 months ago
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Yes. Just wait until you get submissions, journals and comments. :-)
Clunkymunk
Clunkymunk
13 years, 5 months ago
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much <3 to Starling and the admins here. there was a lot of pessimism about this issue and how it would affect IB after it hit FA. good to see you rolling with the punches. keep us updated, and keep up the great work you've done on this site :-)
Buck
Buck
13 years, 5 months ago
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That all sounds pretty intense! You have a lot on your plate. Just let us know what we need to do to help you out. ^____^

I like your approach to this. "Can't work third party? Well, fuck it! We'll do it ourselves!" And that's what I like about this place. You don't compromise the community to meet the needs of the website. You guys make your own solutions and actually get shit done for the good of all.

I don't have much money to spare right now, but you have ALL of my support. You're good people, and you never cease to impress me. I mean that.
HerrAardy
HerrAardy
13 years, 5 months ago
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It sucks that AlertPay dropped you. I'm interested in seeing how the site will work when you make a deal with a print provider~

Good luck with everything! Idk how many transactions you guys make in general, but I hope you get enough to warrant getting a merchant account... would definitely use your services if you did.
bridgeportcat
bridgeportcat
13 years, 5 months ago
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Edited 13 years, 5 months ago by Owner
About prints: Will the outside print making company be allowing/not allowing content? Is it a specific one in particular? Sorry for the noobish questions, I've just never sold prints before and am totally befuddled at the process.
GreenReaper
GreenReaper
13 years, 5 months ago
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Edited 13 years, 5 months ago by Owner
Hopefully we can get things up and running with our current processor, Rabbit Valley, who have been open to most kinds of furry content. It's a matter of figuring out how to get you paying them (but perhaps still via Inkbunny) rather than paying us.
bridgeportcat
bridgeportcat
13 years, 5 months ago
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Oh, cool! Yeah, I wanted to order some prints a while back but forgot about them, so I'm hoping I can order some from artists here again in a way that is easy for them and etc.


(also I want to produce some prints at some point maaaaybe)
Kaheiyattsu
Kaheiyattsu
13 years, 5 months ago
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Good smart people <3
JanisChambers
JanisChambers
13 years, 5 months ago
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I can't blame FA for that they did but, with that said, I am very impressed your site didnt cave in because Alert Pay stabbed you in the back.  If you had a signed agreement with them I would highly suggest a law suit.. after you consult a lawer first. of course.
jmac32here
jmac32here
13 years, 5 months ago
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*giggles* Would like to note that I am aware of a smaller community site that is fur friendly as well.
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