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Chipples

So Here's A Real Hot Take...

Kinda felt like throwing this out there.

Artists without a stable living situation or income should probably not be making art. And by that I mean as a primary income source.

I've seen too many situations where artists are just barely squeaking by. Always broke. Always struggling. I know two artists right now that are stuck in a commission queue pile up. Dozens of commissions waiting. Forced to keep taking more and making the pile bigger just to have enough income to keep surviving.

I hate to see it. I feel shitty whenever I learn someone's tablet just died or harddrive just failed when they're already barely making enough. An artist from Italy's fanbox AND paypal both got banned recently and now they're likely going to have to quit art all together because they won't be able to make enough income off art anymore for it to support them.

I don't want any good artists to leave, but for their own wellbeing I think this needs to be said. I wouldn't be surprised if any artists stick around for a while, make some amazing stuff, put their mark on this tiny corner of the internet, then one day misfortune comes knocking that makes their life crash and burn with no way to recover (Like getting your paypal banned). Or perhaps problems just keep piling up over time until they can no longer handle the weight of it. They have to quit and get a job with little or no education or skills to their name and no way to forge a path to a better future.

Is what you're doing now going to provide you a good future?
What will you do when you get old?
Will you save up enough to retire one day or slow down and take it easy?
Will your income keep you afloat when unexpected injuries or costs come along?
Do you have a way to continue to make a living if something forces you to quit art?

Edit: I think ultimately what I'm saying is, if it's not too late for you, consider if pursuing a career of art commissions is right you. If you can make it work, go for it. I just want people to make smart decisions so they don't make life hard for them.

On a side note, I think EVERY career artist should have a patreon, fanbox, or subscribestar. That is mostly stable monthly income. You need stability. You can't rely on commissions alone. The only people that hate paywalls are people with no jobs that aren't contributing to society.
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Weiss
3 months ago
Isn't that how the life of an artist has always been, even since the old days? Heck even in the Renascence there were struggling artists. I do agree with you but I've also seen a lot of artists who do art as a secondary thing and some more mundane job to get a stable income end up quitting art altogether or not do it as much or as consistently because their mundane job kills their creativity.
GreenPika
3 months ago
I agree. Artists do no one any favors by keeping themselves in such situations. When ever someone asks me about getting into the world of art, I tell them, forget it. Get a decent job first. Make sure you are taken care of. If you ever find the time AFTER to get into art, great, go for it but keep your bottom line.  
ordaa
3 months ago
With most dream jobs, you have to start by getting a stable financial foundation and then start your passion as a mere hobby. Once you get good enough you can move that hobby into a side hustle and maybe even a full-time job if you can gain enough people willing to pay you.
PilloTheStar
3 months ago
I mean yeah I'm broke, but if it weren't for these recent thicc alvin and the chipmunks comms I've been getting, I'd be even broker. 🤷
Chipples
3 months ago
People that rely on art commissions are stuck. It doesn't have to be a bad thing if you can make it work, but if you can't, options are limited.
PilloTheStar
3 months ago
You could say the same about any dead end job tbh. I'd rather be a starving artist than a retail employee. At least in this profession I'm allowed to make the chipettes twerk.
Chipples
3 months ago
There is the difference though that freelance art making doesn't guarantee consistent income.
PilloTheStar
3 months ago
Neither does retail believe it or not 😭
But I see your point.
Xennos
3 months ago
It's always has been a game of balance between, give more time for arts or more time for money. That also implies with full time artists, as they also have to choose between healing arts for themselves or arts for money that continuously burn your passion away. It's just unfortunate reality for all artists no exception.
Whippy
3 months ago
I really like the way you put that. The things people have asked me to draw are often so far from what I want to make :/  One reason I've always made art is that nobody else will make what I need to see. The process itself is relaxing, and like you said: healing ^^
Whippy
3 months ago
It seems like common sense: "If doing art isn't working out, do something else." But many jobs require prior experience / education, a car, a phone, etc. Not to mention paying for fuel and car insurance. Just looking for working is equally demoralizing. So after all that driving around, filling out applications, doing interviews, you might have zero to show for it. Oh and you gotta do it all over again tomorrow.

Compare that to being able to just post a "commissions open" journal, and doing some sketching on a stream.  A lot of artists do this because it's just easier. Computers are a huge handicap though, like you mentioned with hard drives dying etc. After having to mess around so much with my own machines, I honestly think an ipad pro would be a lot more reliable for art.  Yeah, one day I'll get a side job. Not quite yet though.
Chipples
3 months ago
Well people that are already into art may be stuck already. It's a risky career to aim for in the first place.

You need to build up skills and experience when you're younger, before responsibilities really start to pile on. If you don't do that early on in life then you're kinda screwed. Then unless you have someone to support you while going to school or whatever you need to do, it's almost impossible to get a decent job at that point.
Whippy
3 months ago
Thanks for the depression fuel....  

I've been into art since I was 7 years old. I guess I've been stuck a long time.  Yes, it helps to have skills, but we also live in a world today with thousands of free youtube tutorials, cheap tablets, and wireless internet. Knowledge does not require a school specifically, but classes can be taken online. Freelance has a much lower barrier to entry than someone hiring you fulltime.
Chipples
3 months ago
Yeah...I knew this was gonna be kinda a depressing topic. It's harsh reality.

You are right though, I'd forgotten about that. There's a lot of subjects that can be self taught with all the online resources. Though I don't have enough experience to know how readily people would hire someone that doesn't have a degree or license.
KNIFE
3 months ago
"Mama don't let your babies grow up to be artists!"
Chipples
3 months ago
I'm not saying no one should be artists.     x)
I'm saying it's risky and shouldn't be your primary source of income unless you're confident you can turn it into a stable career.
KNIFE
3 months ago
Oh I understand totally, but it just fit that song title perfectly so I had to go there.  :D
Chipples
3 months ago
Oh, that's a song title? I had no idea.
KNIFE
3 months ago
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