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Masturbating to child p0rn is not a healthy way to cope with past trauma. Stop using this excuse. notice: I didn't lock comments; mods did. Probably because I was telling people to kill themselves LOL

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pokemon 177,431, comic 80,598, lycanroc 2,393, purrloin 464

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Type: Picture/Pinup

Published: 2 months, 2 weeks ago

Rating: General

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pacipaws

2 months, 2 weeks ago

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if you think cub porn is gross why are you on the cub porn site

GrimArt

2 months, 2 weeks ago

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@ pacipaws

Because I can block cub porn on this site, duh.

DreamGod

2 months, 2 weeks ago

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My motto’s always been “If it’s not real, it’s not a problem!”

As long as a person can separate fantasy from reality, then I believe that any art is fine to be consumed and/or created.

GrimArt

2 months, 2 weeks ago

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@ DreamGod

I agree, so long as you're not trying to blame your pedophilia on coping with trauma. People immediately assume that I'm saying one thing or another. What I'm saying is that I fucking hate when pedophiles blame their cub/child porn consumption on coping with trauma. That hurts actual victims like me. We don't do that shit. Making us look bad. Then the pedophiles come in and say "Well, actually, some victims do do that". No, they don't. If they do, they're pedophiles and aren't helping themselves. It's ONLY ever pedophiles who make that statement. Pisses me off.

DreamGod

2 months, 2 weeks ago

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@ GrimArt

"

GrimArt wrote:

I agree, so long as you're not trying to blame your pedophilia on coping with trauma. People immediately assume that I'm saying one thing or another. What I'm saying is that I fucking hate when pedophiles blame their cub/child porn consumption on coping with trauma. That hurts actual victims like me. We don't do that shit. Making us look bad. Then the pedophiles come in and say "Well, actually, some victims do do that". No, they don't. If they do, they're pedophiles and aren't helping themselves. It's ONLY ever pedophiles who make that statement. Pisses me off.

Absolutely—they're just coming up with excuses to continue without any guilt. And I'm so sorry that you went through a traumatic experience; that does leave its scars, inside and out.

Silverwolf626

2 months, 2 weeks ago

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If you have trouble distinguishing fantasy from reality, than the issue isn't with the material, it's with the viewer. No one's charged Trey Parker and Matt Stone for the disgusting things they've done to Kenny and many of the kids on South Park. No ones charging Seth MacFarlane for insinuating Stewie is having anal/oral sex with adults. No ones charging Matt Groening for the rather macabre halloween episodes of The Simpsons with the kids being murdered. It's just art, and like you said in that reply, you're free to block it since that's your preference. But conflating it with real CP, is just plain foolish. =/

GrimArt

2 months, 2 weeks ago

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@ Silverwolf626

Notice how this art wasn't about fiction versus reality. It was about people blaming their child porn consumption on trauma. That says something about your conscious.

AlyssaKamber

2 months, 2 weeks ago

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Maybe so, but cub art is not child pr0n. It's lines on paper. It's no closer to the real thing than any of the rape, snuff, guro or vore art in the fandom. It's fiction.

GrimArt

2 months, 2 weeks ago

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@ AlyssaKamber

Cub porn is child porn. What is a cub? An animal that is a CHILD. It's fictional, yes, but you still get an arousal reaction to a child-like face and a child-like body. Ergo, you're a fucking pedophile, just as someone who is aroused to Transformers (lines on paper, something that isn't real) is still considered a robophile.

Seisetsu

2 months, 2 weeks ago

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I love your art Grim, but I honestly don’t understand this line of thinking…. On this site of all places. If we were on Furaffinity, sure, but here… this is what this site was made for. Furthermore, if cub art is considered child exploitation material, then why is this site even here in the first place? When people started emailing the FBI over Loli/shota art from how much it got popular on Twitter before it became X and the cesspool it became now with ACTUAL child exploitation stuff all over it, they made a public statement saying how much they are happy people want to help against child exploitation, that people were flooding their report system with things that were not child exploitation (Shota/loli/cub art related) and for people to stop. Don’t get me wrong, there is a very thin line between people who like that style of art and people who actually want to diddle a child, but that would be the same as saying all black people steal, or all white people wanna eff their cousins or all Muslims are terrorist.

You don’t have to like that style, hell you can hate it if you want, but labeling that style of art as child exploitation just because you don’t like it is extremely misleading. People have had their whole lives ruined because people have that train of thought and report them or call their jobs/homes blaming them for being into child exploit material only to find out it was just loli/shota/cub art and while legally they got no trouble, the damage is already done to their reputation by people with that thought process that loli/shota/cub = child exploitation material.

If we go by what you and everyone says, does that mean all of us want to diddle animals too? People get sexually aroused by furry characters, all furry characters are is animals, hell some of your comics are feral (like this one) does that mean you want to diddle an animal because you draw characters in sexual situations? No, obviously, but it’s the same as just saying people who like cub are want to diddle a child or are into child exploitation material.

GrimArt

2 months, 2 weeks ago

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@ Seisetsu

The point of this image was to call out people who use "coping" as an excuse for cub porn. I'm not condemning the consumption of it in this image. I just fucking hate people that use coping as an excuse instead of just accepting that they use it because they like it. I didn't mention fiction vs reality, style, etc that people are bringing up in the comments. All I want is for people to stop using the plight of real victims as their excuse, as though they are aware that consumption of cub porn is shameful to the general public and they need a 'valid' excuse to be forgiven for it. Just fucking admit you use cub porn. You don't got to make an excuse for it like you're ashamed or something. If you're talking about my twitter post: you can't justify. The child in the censored image is being raped by a black man. That is exploiting the child. The child cannot consent. If any mother had been told of what you jerked off to, every mother in their right mind would avoid you like the plague. That speaks to society that you are a pedophile, regardless of whether it's fictitious or real. If the cubs you jerk off to were real and looked like the image, you ought desire for it. You would fuck it. Even if you didn't, your dick would respond to it the way it responded to the images. If it were real, you would want to have sex with it. That's why most normal people will avoid you if they found out you were jerking to drawings of children. These aren't feral animals. They're laying down but are standing in the comics. I can understand the misunderstanding. Bringing up that they're feral has no merit here. They're not being portrayed sexually.

Seisetsu

2 months, 2 weeks ago

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@ GrimArt

Ok, THAT makes a lot of sense. I can 100% agree with you here.

Edit: More got added at the end... I agreed with you up to this point.

"	GrimArt wrote:
	Just fucking admit you use cub porn.

Seisetsu

2 months, 2 weeks ago

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@ GrimArt

The point I was making was, if furries draw animal characters in a sexualized way, by the logic you are saying, that means that we are into bestiality. Even though most of us aren’t and wouldn’t even attempt to do that, people look at furries and just straight up assume that we want to diddle animals, the same as you who look at people who like cub art and say they want to do illegal stuff with a child.

GrimArt

2 months, 2 weeks ago

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@ Seisetsu

No. Beastiality is the equivalent of child predator. Someone who actively attempts to do it. Furries are zoophiles. They're not committing bestiality. A pedophile is just a pedophile until they actively seek out children in real life. Then they become child predator. That being said: if the cub characters you jerk off to existed in real life and looked similar to how they do rendered in the image, you would desire to have sex with them. That's why you're jerking off to the image now; the fantasy of it. if that cub was in your room, looking as it did on your screen, you would be lying to say that you did not desire it. You would want to do it with that underage animal. Thank god they don't exist. But if they made a robot that looked like a real living cub, would you say you would not want to fuck it? I would find it hard to believe if you said yes.

GrimArt

2 months, 2 weeks ago

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@ GrimArt

Scrap even what I said about the robot (that's too easy for you). If technology allowed us to create a living creature that looked similar to the cub fodder you fap to, you would desire it even though you know it's wrong to fuck underage creatures.

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